I understand that if I left McNamara in charge, the truce option would've been available, and now with Hardin in charge, it seems that I'm pretty much ♥♥♥♥ed. In case you didn't read the title of this post, SPOILERS BELOW So, I started working on both the I could make you care and Still in the dark quests simultaneously. With Still in the dark, I was ignoring the optional points to get Elder McNamara ousted.Specifically, I did the following: In order to talk to Elder McNamara, you have to visit one of the bunkers (M13:1).When you reach the bunker you will meet a Brotherhood Paladin #1.You will have to give away all your weapons and items and go to the [L1].Go downstairs and talk to … or become a better elder. pleas tell me witch i should pick thanks. Still in the Dark will be marked as completed, and Hardin will become the Elder of the Brotherhood. Speak with Edgar Hardin in the Hidden Valley Bunker. so i wanted to pick the best out come for the brother of steel but i want to know that if i help hardin will it be good or is he another worthless elder? Quests. McNamara will be demoted to a Knight and will now be seen working in the Brotherhood workshop. If you decided to oust Elder McNamara in the quest “Still in the Dark,” Edgar Hardin will become the new Elder. Head Paladin Hardin OR Elder Nolan McNamara? I picked Mcnamara because he lets you be a paladin anyway, and you can make a truce.Icommandoxx 13:09, April 20, 2011 (UTC) Hardin is pointless, they each give you one more mission, but afterwards with McNamara at least you don't have to kill them all.Pappy002 00:20, April 21, 2011 (UTC) I work for Mr. House, so I killed them all. Given by: Elder McNamara [Hidden Valley] (M13B:1). or whatever. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Hardin or McNamara". I have also heard people talk about if you give it to Hardin you dont get to keep Veronica as a companion? Definitely liking it so far. ". Im Currently playing New Vegas and have nearly finished the 'Still in the Dark' Quest. While Hardin, in my opinion, would charge in head first against a Legendary Deathclaw for a simple laser pistol that is hanging around its neck like a dog tag without thinking once and even if he got it he would find out its broken. So I did the Still in the Dark quest, and helped Hardin become the new elder, and now I continued with the For the Republic 2 quest, and Moore wants me to destroy the BoS. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "McNamara or Hardin? BUT! McNamara is more thoughtful and takes careful steps to make sure his people wont be in harms way. Edit: thanks for all the responses. My question is, who should I give the tapes to, Elder Mcnamara or Head Paladin Hardin? ... For helping Hardin overthrow McNamara: 1000 XP Brotherhood Safehouse Key Brotherhood of Steel Fame: View Full-size. Camp McCarran (Part 2) Vault 11 and Vault 3. Still in the Dark: During this quest, Hardin asks the Courier to help him remove Elder McNamara from power so he could become the new Elder. Under Hardin's rule, the Brotherhood will try to stop its isolationist tendencies and increase their influence outside of the Hidden Valley bunker. Located southeast of Sloan, the Hidden Valley has four bunkers, one being the Brotherhood of Steel. Still in the Dark (Part 2) Fallout: New Vegas. ; Tend to Your Business: Hardin, after becoming the new elder, asks the Courier to kill all of the Van Graffs in Freeside to prove their loyalty to the Brotherhood. ; For the Republic, Part 2: There is a way to oust McNamara and have a peaceful … I continued with McNamara however, and after completing Still in the Dark he removes the lockdown anyway. 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